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General Topics => Public Discussions => Topic started by: Billy Bong (billybob41) on June 07, 2017, 07:57:07 pm

Title: Map Change Vote - All members are welcome to participate
Post by: Billy Bong (billybob41) on June 07, 2017, 07:57:07 pm
Moving forward with this game-mode will require us to add new content. Harbor Roleplay has been around many years and has gone through so many changes. This time, we are reaching out to the public before we make this dissension final.

Twin Harbor is another map by Statua. This one has many advantages compared to our current map. Some areas have been upgraded while others were completely removed for something new. Our goal on this switch is to allow more content to be added, such as more vehicles and job opportunities. We still have the ability to edit our current map to accommodate our needs, but Twin Harbor has just about everything we could ask for. Let us know how you feel by casting your vote and posting comments, all members are welcome to participate!

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=400101522&searchtext=twin+harbor

Updated Red Harbor:
(https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/824566637797016998/348B9ADA2DC4553C99F12BCBE3CEB7FE28733166/)
(https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/824566637797017431/6A2E4C426725D8A2E5384B49901256AFCF4EEAB8/)
(https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/824566637797026405/D3C5C7979376A30EA06CD1BBC40EEF77A8AEADC7/)
(https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/824566637797016280/E404AEC64CAF9978073D54C7B2C9F563032EE4E3/)

Islands were replaced with the Island Resorts:
(https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/824566637797019950/38477E3B89CCBF9305E53EDC5D24EAC6CA518A46/)
(https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/824566637797019852/A0B748D5AF24C4B725A54B9F40D8BAF32B383C87/)
(https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/824566637797025985/9B4D15453088B05117557CB1525AFBB1A956D0AF/)

Blue Harbor has also been upgraded:
(https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/824566637797018706/2F8DDCCF31119E621313C54B26EB6A6FCCC10E03/)
(https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/824566637797018984/6A36DFBB43234D3DA7BCAF7B6F27DFF886C787AF/)

Oil Rig has been replaced with a ship:
(https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/824566637797018150/B9A6851E15DB0AF47B44EB7CB42DDADBDC601499/)
(https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/824566637797018432/D6830797C4724E9CF36FC584F74768C01F1F2456/)
Title: Re: Map Change Vote - All members are welcome to participate
Post by: on June 07, 2017, 10:17:45 pm
Finally! I am ready to switch maps, harbor2ocean is just annoying and I think this is way better. I definitely voted for twin harbor switch. :)
Title: Re: Map Change Vote - All members are welcome to participate
Post by: Zafiro on June 07, 2017, 10:27:05 pm
Can't wait to see this implemented, been waiting for this poll for a while.
Title: Re: Map Change Vote - All members are welcome to participate
Post by: Bob Ganderly ({LBRP} Boufspiz) on June 08, 2017, 08:51:18 pm
I am excited to see the map finally change after having harbor2ocean for so long. Its a healthy change to the server in my opinion. I did see lots of weird things in the other map, and I hope Billy's great developers can work out those weird useless things to have in the map. Or you could use these spots for new jobs! I wish luck to all on the change of this map, and hope it works out well.
Title: Re: Map Change Vote - All members are welcome to participate
Post by: Homer Barzetti (homeowner) on June 11, 2017, 04:43:44 pm
Why not the original CG map?
Title: Re: Map Change Vote - All members are welcome to participate
Post by: on June 12, 2017, 03:42:58 am
Why not the original CG map?

This is it, isn't it?
Title: Re: Map Change Vote - All members are welcome to participate
Post by: Billy Bong (billybob41) on June 14, 2017, 12:32:39 pm
Why not the original CG map?

To add new content, we must use an updated map or make a new one from scratch. Using the first HRP map would only delay this process, plus require drastic editing all over. We do have some changes in mind for Twin Harbor, like re-adding the Oil Rig and more secret areas. I do enjoy the classic map, but it doesn't seem to offer much compared to the others. The only thing I could see being used again is the Oil Rig, where the ladder to the top is inside the supports. Good times!

Old Screenshot from 2012:
(https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/499140542868404287/277491B61F3B650773B4E9D7307E88E8A4A72C57/)
Title: Re: Map Change Vote - All members are welcome to participate
Post by: Homer Barzetti (homeowner) on June 16, 2017, 05:13:14 pm
Why not the original CG map?

To add new content, we must use an updated map or make a new one from scratch. Using the first HRP map would only delay this process, plus require drastic editing all over. We do have some changes in mind for Twin Harbor, like re-adding the Oil Rig and more secret areas. I do enjoy the classic map, but it doesn't seem to offer much compared to the others. The only thing I could see being used again is the Oil Rig, where the ladder to the top is inside the supports. Good times!

Old Screenshot from 2012:
(https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/499140542868404287/277491B61F3B650773B4E9D7307E88E8A4A72C57/)

jesus christ the nostalgia
Title: Re: Map Change Vote - All members are welcome to participate
Post by: Mathias Klausen (The Swat DK) on June 20, 2017, 02:43:52 pm
i personally upvote this because something needs to happen about the map we need to be able to explore cuz right now i know the exact location of everything
Title: Re: Map Change Vote - All members are welcome to participate
Post by: Zafiro on June 21, 2017, 03:09:48 pm
Twin's secrets are a lot more complex as far as I remember, so yea thats another bonus.
Title: Re: Map Change Vote - All members are welcome to participate
Post by: on June 22, 2017, 12:25:30 am
Well, it looks like we have a winner!

Twin Harbor has won the vote. We will be working on the update and hope to get it finished soon.
Title: Re: Map Change Vote - All members are welcome to participate
Post by: John Heald (Bay) on June 22, 2017, 01:22:14 am
Well, it looks like we have a winner!

Twin Harbor has won the vote. We will be working on the update and hope to get it finished soon.

Good luck getting it wrapped up.
Title: Re: Map Change Vote - All members are welcome to participate
Post by: Billy Bong (billybob41) on June 22, 2017, 01:37:19 pm
map is going to take a bit longer than anticipated. at this point, all i can say is keep checking back for more info. I apologize for the delay...
Title: Re: Map Change Vote - All members are welcome to participate
Post by: John Heald (Bay) on June 22, 2017, 04:19:12 pm
Rip. We gotta have patience now.
Title: Re: Map Change Vote - All members are welcome to participate
Post by: Zafiro on June 22, 2017, 07:55:45 pm
Oh well, still excited to see what will be added into the map.
Title: Re: Map Change Vote - All members are welcome to participate
Post by: Miku Netsuha (Nicknero) on June 23, 2017, 02:44:09 am
i personally upvote this because something needs to happen about the map we need to be able to explore cuz right now i know the exact location of everything
You only think you know everything...
Title: Re: Map Change Vote - All members are welcome to participate
Post by: Homer Barzetti (homeowner) on June 23, 2017, 10:28:21 am
After looking at the description in the workshop, can we even bypass the script the mappers put in place to prevent us from using it?

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This is a tropical harbor map designed for the Catalyst-Gaming Harbor Roleplay server. This map has a script to deter use on other servers. Feel free to look around in singleplayer. If you wish to play on this map, you can connect to the server linked above. Due to the instability of FastDL, this map was uploaded to the workshop for public access and streamlined downloading.
- https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=400101522&searchtext=twin+harbor
Title: Re: Map Change Vote - All members are welcome to participate
Post by: Zafiro on June 23, 2017, 11:36:58 am
After looking at the description in the workshop, can we even bypass the script the mappers put in place to prevent us from using it?

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This is a tropical harbor map designed for the Catalyst-Gaming Harbor Roleplay server. This map has a script to deter use on other servers. Feel free to look around in singleplayer. If you wish to play on this map, you can connect to the server linked above. Due to the instability of FastDL, this map was uploaded to the workshop for public access and streamlined downloading.
- https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=400101522&searchtext=twin+harbor

People have already decompiled it and removed it, there is also an autoexec to remove it.

None of this matters though as Statua quit mapping and released all of his VMFs.
Title: Re: Map Change Vote - All members are welcome to participate
Post by: Billy Bong (billybob41) on June 23, 2017, 11:54:16 am
After looking at the description in the workshop, can we even bypass the script the mappers put in place to prevent us from using it?

Says the same thing on our current map too. Statua made it clear he doesn't care about the maps anymore, he even recommends to use the other version that he didn't upload to avoid the watermarks. Once we finish preparing the map, we wont advert the workshop one anymore. Ours will be setup on the fastDL system instead. It will contain many fixes and the changes we need for the game-mode to thrive again.

Keep in mind, Catalyst gave up on HRP years ago with out any explanation. Our intentions is to keep HarborRP alive and running smooth. The only way we can do this is to move forward with the map update.
Title: Re: Map Change Vote - All members are welcome to participate
Post by: Homer Barzetti (homeowner) on June 23, 2017, 04:29:38 pm
After looking at the description in the workshop, can we even bypass the script the mappers put in place to prevent us from using it?

Says the same thing on our current map too. Statua made it clear he doesn't care about the maps anymore, he even recommends to use the other version that he didn't upload to avoid the watermarks. Once we finish preparing the map, we wont advert the workshop one anymore. Ours will be setup on the fastDL system instead. It will contain many fixes and the changes we need for the game-mode to thrive again.

Keep in mind, Catalyst gave up on HRP years ago with out any explanation. Our intentions is to keep HarborRP alive and running smooth. The only way we can do this is to move forward with the map update.

Yeah, hopefully this map change brings back players and hopefully more development can be done to fix bugs and add more features / things to do.